Alberto Nuñez Upper Lower Program

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4-day a week upper lower split by bodybuilding coach Alberto Nuñez, with 4 program variations.

Program Description

This 4-Day Upper Lower Program is designed by Alberto Nuñez, who is the head bodybuilding coach at 3D Muscle Journey. Alberto is an accomplished lifelong natural bodybuilder, having most recently won Mr. Universe at the 2022 WNBF.

Alberto Nuñez designed this program to target your upper and lower body muscles twice a week. Additionally, there are 4 program variations for you to choose from, with each focused more on a specific muscle group while still targeting the entire body.

Program Variations

Arms dominant (biceps, triceps, shoulders)
Torso dominant (chest, back, lats)
Quad dominant (quadriceps, thigh)
Glute-ham dominant (butt, hamstrings)

Read the full guide below for an overview of the program and progression guidance.

Program Overview

Coach	Alberto Nuñez
Level	Beginner, Novice, Intermediate
Goal	Bodybuilding
Equipment	Full Gym
Time Per Workout	60 minutes
Days Per Week	4 days
Program Length	15 weeks

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Variation 1

Variation 2

Variation 3

Variation 4

Arms and Delts Dominant

Program Length

15 weeks

Days Per Week

4 days

Default Days

Mon, Tue, Thu, Fri

Variation Description

Biceps, triceps, shoulders focused
Upper, Lower, Upper, Lower weekly split

Week 1

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Day 1

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Seated Front Raise (Dumbbell)	1	10-15
Seated Anterior Delt Press	3	6-10
Standing Lateral Raise (Cable)	3	10-17
Standing Overhead Tricep Extension (Cable)	3	10-15
Prone Rear Delt Fly (Dumbbell)	1	10-15
Prone Rear Delt Row (Cable)	3	6-10
Standing Bicep Curl (Cable)	3	10-17

Day 2

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Glute Bridge (Barbell)	1	10-15
Romanian Deadlift (Barbell)	2	6-10
Hip Dominant Leg Press	2	6-10
Seated Leg Curl	2	6-10
Seated Calf Raise	2	6-10

Day 3

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Bench Press (Dumbbell)	2	6-10
Lat Dominant Row (Cable)	2	6-10
Incline Bench Press (Dumbbell)	2	6-10
Neutral Grip Lat Pulldown	2	6-10
Tricep Extension (Cable)	2	10-15
Hammer Curl (Cable)	2	10-15

Day 4

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Quad Dominant Leg Press	2	6-10
Leg Extension	2	10-15
Sissy Squat	2	1+
Standing Lateral Raise (Dumbbell)	3	10-15
Straight Leg Calf Raise	2	6-10
Abs Crunch (Cable)	2	6-10

Week 2

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Day 1

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Seated Front Raise (Dumbbell)	1	10-15
Seated Anterior Delt Press	3	6-10
Standing Lateral Raise (Cable)	3	10-17
Standing Overhead Tricep Extension (Cable)	3	10-15
Prone Rear Delt Fly (Dumbbell)	1	10-15
Prone Rear Delt Row (Cable)	3	6-10
Standing Bicep Curl (Cable)	3	10-17

Day 2

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Glute Bridge (Barbell)	1	10-15
Romanian Deadlift (Barbell)	2	6-10
Hip Dominant Leg Press	2	6-10
Seated Leg Curl	2	6-10
Seated Calf Raise	2	6-10

Day 3

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Bench Press (Dumbbell)	2	6-10
Lat Dominant Row (Cable)	2	6-10
Incline Bench Press (Dumbbell)	2	6-10
Neutral Grip Lat Pulldown	2	6-10
Tricep Extension (Cable)	2	10-15
Hammer Curl (Cable)	2	10-15

Day 4

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Quad Dominant Leg Press	2	6-10
Leg Extension	2	10-15
Sissy Squat	2	1+
Standing Lateral Raise (Dumbbell)	3	10-15
Straight Leg Calf Raise	2	6-10
Abs Crunch (Cable)	2	6-10

Week 3

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Day 1

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Seated Front Raise (Dumbbell)	1	10-15
Seated Anterior Delt Press	3	6-10
Standing Lateral Raise (Cable)	3	10-17
Standing Overhead Tricep Extension (Cable)	3	10-15
Prone Rear Delt Fly (Dumbbell)	1	10-15
Prone Rear Delt Row (Cable)	3	6-10
Standing Bicep Curl (Cable)	3	10-17

Day 2

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Glute Bridge (Barbell)	1	10-15
Romanian Deadlift (Barbell)	2	6-10
Hip Dominant Leg Press	2	6-10
Seated Leg Curl	2	6-10
Seated Calf Raise	2	6-10

Day 3

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Bench Press (Dumbbell)	2	6-10
Lat Dominant Row (Cable)	2	6-10
Incline Bench Press (Dumbbell)	2	6-10
Neutral Grip Lat Pulldown	2	6-10
Tricep Extension (Cable)	2	10-15
Hammer Curl (Cable)	2	10-15

Day 4

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Quad Dominant Leg Press	2	6-10
Leg Extension	2	10-15
Sissy Squat	2	1+
Standing Lateral Raise (Dumbbell)	3	10-15
Straight Leg Calf Raise	2	6-10
Abs Crunch (Cable)	2	6-10

Week 4

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Day 1

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Seated Front Raise (Dumbbell)	1	10-15
Seated Anterior Delt Press	3	6-10
Standing Lateral Raise (Cable)	3	10-17
Standing Overhead Tricep Extension (Cable)	3	10-15
Prone Rear Delt Fly (Dumbbell)	1	10-15
Prone Rear Delt Row (Cable)	3	6-10
Standing Bicep Curl (Cable)	3	10-17

Day 2

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Glute Bridge (Barbell)	1	10-15
Romanian Deadlift (Barbell)	2	6-10
Hip Dominant Leg Press	2	6-10
Seated Leg Curl	2	6-10
Seated Calf Raise	2	6-10

Day 3

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Bench Press (Dumbbell)	2	6-10
Lat Dominant Row (Cable)	2	6-10
Incline Bench Press (Dumbbell)	2	6-10
Neutral Grip Lat Pulldown	2	6-10
Tricep Extension (Cable)	2	10-15
Hammer Curl (Cable)	2	10-15

Day 4

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Quad Dominant Leg Press	2	6-10
Leg Extension	2	10-15
Sissy Squat	2	1+
Standing Lateral Raise (Dumbbell)	3	10-15
Straight Leg Calf Raise	2	6-10
Abs Crunch (Cable)	2	6-10

Week 5

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Day 1

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Seated Front Raise (Dumbbell)	1	10-15
Seated Anterior Delt Press	3	6-10
Standing Lateral Raise (Cable)	3	10-17
Standing Overhead Tricep Extension (Cable)	3	10-15
Prone Rear Delt Fly (Dumbbell)	1	10-15
Prone Rear Delt Row (Cable)	3	6-10
Standing Bicep Curl (Cable)	3	10-17

Day 2

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Glute Bridge (Barbell)	1	10-15
Romanian Deadlift (Barbell)	2	6-10
Hip Dominant Leg Press	2	6-10
Seated Leg Curl	2	6-10
Seated Calf Raise	2	6-10

Day 3

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Bench Press (Dumbbell)	2	6-10
Lat Dominant Row (Cable)	2	6-10
Incline Bench Press (Dumbbell)	2	6-10
Neutral Grip Lat Pulldown	2	6-10
Tricep Extension (Cable)	2	10-15
Hammer Curl (Cable)	2	10-15

Day 4

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Quad Dominant Leg Press	2	6-10
Leg Extension	2	10-15
Sissy Squat	2	1+
Standing Lateral Raise (Dumbbell)	3	10-15
Straight Leg Calf Raise	2	6-10
Abs Crunch (Cable)	2	6-10

Week 6

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Day 1

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Seated Front Raise (Dumbbell)	1	10-15
Seated Anterior Delt Press	3	6-10
Standing Lateral Raise (Cable)	3	10-17
Standing Overhead Tricep Extension (Cable)	3	10-15
Prone Rear Delt Fly (Dumbbell)	1	10-15
Prone Rear Delt Row (Cable)	3	6-10
Standing Bicep Curl (Cable)	3	10-17

Day 2

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Glute Bridge (Barbell)	1	10-15
Romanian Deadlift (Barbell)	2	6-10
Hip Dominant Leg Press	2	6-10
Seated Leg Curl	2	6-10
Seated Calf Raise	2	6-10

Day 3

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Bench Press (Dumbbell)	2	6-10
Lat Dominant Row (Cable)	2	6-10
Incline Bench Press (Dumbbell)	2	6-10
Neutral Grip Lat Pulldown	2	6-10
Tricep Extension (Cable)	2	10-15
Hammer Curl (Cable)	2	10-15

Day 4

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Quad Dominant Leg Press	2	6-10
Leg Extension	2	10-15
Sissy Squat	2	1+
Standing Lateral Raise (Dumbbell)	3	10-15
Straight Leg Calf Raise	2	6-10
Abs Crunch (Cable)	2	6-10

Week 7

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Day 1

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Seated Front Raise (Dumbbell)	1	10-15
Seated Anterior Delt Press	3	6-10
Standing Lateral Raise (Cable)	3	10-17
Standing Overhead Tricep Extension (Cable)	3	10-15
Prone Rear Delt Fly (Dumbbell)	1	10-15
Prone Rear Delt Row (Cable)	3	6-10
Standing Bicep Curl (Cable)	3	10-17

Day 2

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Glute Bridge (Barbell)	1	10-15
Romanian Deadlift (Barbell)	2	6-10
Hip Dominant Leg Press	2	6-10
Seated Leg Curl	2	6-10
Seated Calf Raise	2	6-10

Day 3

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Bench Press (Dumbbell)	2	6-10
Lat Dominant Row (Cable)	2	6-10
Incline Bench Press (Dumbbell)	2	6-10
Neutral Grip Lat Pulldown	2	6-10
Tricep Extension (Cable)	2	10-15
Hammer Curl (Cable)	2	10-15

Day 4

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Quad Dominant Leg Press	2	6-10
Leg Extension	2	10-15
Sissy Squat	2	1+
Standing Lateral Raise (Dumbbell)	3	10-15
Straight Leg Calf Raise	2	6-10
Abs Crunch (Cable)	2	6-10

Week 8 - Deload 1 · Pick 2 Favorite Days

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Day 1

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Seated Front Raise (Dumbbell)	1	10-15
Seated Anterior Delt Press	3	6-10
Standing Lateral Raise (Cable)	3	10-17
Standing Overhead Tricep Extension (Cable)	3	10-15
Prone Rear Delt Fly (Dumbbell)	1	10-15
Prone Rear Delt Row (Cable)	3	6-10
Standing Bicep Curl (Cable)	3	10-17

Day 2

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Glute Bridge (Barbell)	1	10-15
Romanian Deadlift (Barbell)	2	6-10
Hip Dominant Leg Press	2	6-10
Seated Leg Curl	2	6-10
Seated Calf Raise	2	6-10

Day 3

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Bench Press (Dumbbell)	2	6-10
Lat Dominant Row (Cable)	2	6-10
Incline Bench Press (Dumbbell)	2	6-10
Neutral Grip Lat Pulldown	2	6-10
Tricep Extension (Cable)	2	10-15
Hammer Curl (Cable)	2	10-15

Day 4

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Quad Dominant Leg Press	2	6-10
Leg Extension	2	10-15
Sissy Squat	2	1+
Standing Lateral Raise (Dumbbell)	3	10-15
Straight Leg Calf Raise	2	6-10
Abs Crunch (Cable)	2	6-10

Week 9

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Day 1

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Seated Front Raise (Dumbbell)	1	10-15
Seated Anterior Delt Press	3	6-10
Standing Lateral Raise (Cable)	3	10-17
Standing Overhead Tricep Extension (Cable)	3	10-15
Prone Rear Delt Fly (Dumbbell)	1	10-15
Prone Rear Delt Row (Cable)	3	6-10
Standing Bicep Curl (Cable)	3	10-17

Day 2

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Glute Bridge (Barbell)	1	10-15
Romanian Deadlift (Barbell)	2	6-10
Hip Dominant Leg Press	2	6-10
Seated Leg Curl	2	6-10
Seated Calf Raise	2	6-10

Day 3

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Bench Press (Dumbbell)	2	6-10
Lat Dominant Row (Cable)	2	6-10
Incline Bench Press (Dumbbell)	2	6-10
Neutral Grip Lat Pulldown	2	6-10
Tricep Extension (Cable)	2	10-15
Hammer Curl (Cable)	2	10-15

Day 4

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Quad Dominant Leg Press	2	6-10
Leg Extension	2	10-15
Sissy Squat	2	1+
Standing Lateral Raise (Dumbbell)	3	10-15
Straight Leg Calf Raise	2	6-10
Abs Crunch (Cable)	2	6-10

Week 10

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Day 1

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Seated Front Raise (Dumbbell)	1	10-15
Seated Anterior Delt Press	3	6-10
Standing Lateral Raise (Cable)	3	10-17
Standing Overhead Tricep Extension (Cable)	3	10-15
Prone Rear Delt Fly (Dumbbell)	1	10-15
Prone Rear Delt Row (Cable)	3	6-10
Standing Bicep Curl (Cable)	3	10-17

Day 2

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Glute Bridge (Barbell)	1	10-15
Romanian Deadlift (Barbell)	2	6-10
Hip Dominant Leg Press	2	6-10
Seated Leg Curl	2	6-10
Seated Calf Raise	2	6-10

Day 3

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Bench Press (Dumbbell)	2	6-10
Lat Dominant Row (Cable)	2	6-10
Incline Bench Press (Dumbbell)	2	6-10
Neutral Grip Lat Pulldown	2	6-10
Tricep Extension (Cable)	2	10-15
Hammer Curl (Cable)	2	10-15

Day 4

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Quad Dominant Leg Press	2	6-10
Leg Extension	2	10-15
Sissy Squat	2	1+
Standing Lateral Raise (Dumbbell)	3	10-15
Straight Leg Calf Raise	2	6-10
Abs Crunch (Cable)	2	6-10

Week 11

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Day 1

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Seated Front Raise (Dumbbell)	1	10-15
Seated Anterior Delt Press	3	6-10
Standing Lateral Raise (Cable)	3	10-17
Standing Overhead Tricep Extension (Cable)	3	10-15
Prone Rear Delt Fly (Dumbbell)	1	10-15
Prone Rear Delt Row (Cable)	3	6-10
Standing Bicep Curl (Cable)	3	10-17

Day 2

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Glute Bridge (Barbell)	1	10-15
Romanian Deadlift (Barbell)	2	6-10
Hip Dominant Leg Press	2	6-10
Seated Leg Curl	2	6-10
Seated Calf Raise	2	6-10

Day 3

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Bench Press (Dumbbell)	2	6-10
Lat Dominant Row (Cable)	2	6-10
Incline Bench Press (Dumbbell)	2	6-10
Neutral Grip Lat Pulldown	2	6-10
Tricep Extension (Cable)	2	10-15
Hammer Curl (Cable)	2	10-15

Day 4

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Quad Dominant Leg Press	2	6-10
Leg Extension	2	10-15
Sissy Squat	2	1+
Standing Lateral Raise (Dumbbell)	3	10-15
Straight Leg Calf Raise	2	6-10
Abs Crunch (Cable)	2	6-10

Week 12

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Day 1

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Seated Front Raise (Dumbbell)	1	10-15
Seated Anterior Delt Press	3	6-10
Standing Lateral Raise (Cable)	3	10-17
Standing Overhead Tricep Extension (Cable)	3	10-15
Prone Rear Delt Fly (Dumbbell)	1	10-15
Prone Rear Delt Row (Cable)	3	6-10
Standing Bicep Curl (Cable)	3	10-17

Day 2

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Glute Bridge (Barbell)	1	10-15
Romanian Deadlift (Barbell)	2	6-10
Hip Dominant Leg Press	2	6-10
Seated Leg Curl	2	6-10
Seated Calf Raise	2	6-10

Day 3

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Bench Press (Dumbbell)	2	6-10
Lat Dominant Row (Cable)	2	6-10
Incline Bench Press (Dumbbell)	2	6-10
Neutral Grip Lat Pulldown	2	6-10
Tricep Extension (Cable)	2	10-15
Hammer Curl (Cable)	2	10-15

Day 4

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Quad Dominant Leg Press	2	6-10
Leg Extension	2	10-15
Sissy Squat	2	1+
Standing Lateral Raise (Dumbbell)	3	10-15
Straight Leg Calf Raise	2	6-10
Abs Crunch (Cable)	2	6-10

Week 13

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Day 1

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Seated Front Raise (Dumbbell)	1	10-15
Seated Anterior Delt Press	3	6-10
Standing Lateral Raise (Cable)	3	10-17
Standing Overhead Tricep Extension (Cable)	3	10-15
Prone Rear Delt Fly (Dumbbell)	1	10-15
Prone Rear Delt Row (Cable)	3	6-10
Standing Bicep Curl (Cable)	3	10-17

Day 2

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Glute Bridge (Barbell)	1	10-15
Romanian Deadlift (Barbell)	2	6-10
Hip Dominant Leg Press	2	6-10
Seated Leg Curl	2	6-10
Seated Calf Raise	2	6-10

Day 3

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Bench Press (Dumbbell)	2	6-10
Lat Dominant Row (Cable)	2	6-10
Incline Bench Press (Dumbbell)	2	6-10
Neutral Grip Lat Pulldown	2	6-10
Tricep Extension (Cable)	2	10-15
Hammer Curl (Cable)	2	10-15

Day 4

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Quad Dominant Leg Press	2	6-10
Leg Extension	2	10-15
Sissy Squat	2	1+
Standing Lateral Raise (Dumbbell)	3	10-15
Straight Leg Calf Raise	2	6-10
Abs Crunch (Cable)	2	6-10

Week 14

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Day 1

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Seated Front Raise (Dumbbell)	1	10-15
Seated Anterior Delt Press	3	6-10
Standing Lateral Raise (Cable)	3	10-17
Standing Overhead Tricep Extension (Cable)	3	10-15
Prone Rear Delt Fly (Dumbbell)	1	10-15
Prone Rear Delt Row (Cable)	3	6-10
Standing Bicep Curl (Cable)	3	10-17

Day 2

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Glute Bridge (Barbell)	1	10-15
Romanian Deadlift (Barbell)	2	6-10
Hip Dominant Leg Press	2	6-10
Seated Leg Curl	2	6-10
Seated Calf Raise	2	6-10

Day 3

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Bench Press (Dumbbell)	2	6-10
Lat Dominant Row (Cable)	2	6-10
Incline Bench Press (Dumbbell)	2	6-10
Neutral Grip Lat Pulldown	2	6-10
Tricep Extension (Cable)	2	10-15
Hammer Curl (Cable)	2	10-15

Day 4

Exercise	Sets	Reps
Quad Dominant Leg Press	2	6-10
Leg Extension	2	10-15
Sissy Squat	2	1+
Standing Lateral Raise (Dumbbell)	3	10-15
Straight Leg Calf Raise	2	6-10
Abs Crunch (Cable)	2	6-10

Week 15 - Deload 2 · Skip the whole week

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BPM2108 B.Man, 32

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As expected strength gains

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Marginal modifications

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Joshua W.Man, 18

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More than expected strength gains

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Great for starting the gym as it establishes a great routine and helps you to get used to all the equipment and different ways you can use them. This programme has boosted my confidence in the gym and from the muscle mass gained and more confidence in myself

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PROGRAM GUIDE

4-DAY UPPER LOWER PROGRAM SCHEDULE

Arms dominant and torso dominant program variations:

Upper Day 1 - Monday
Lower Day 1 - Tuesday
Upper Day 2 - Thursday
Lower Day 2 - Friday or Saturday

Quad dominant and glute-ham dominant program variations:

Lower Day 1 - Monday
Upper Day 1 - Tuesday
Lower Day 2 - Thursday
Upper Day 2 - Friday or Saturday

WHY 4-DAY UPPER LOWER PROGRAM?

90% of trainees progress the best on 4-day a week of training. This ensures the most optimal training to recovery ratio. 5 to 6 days a week requires a significant level of lifestyle changes that most people aren't ready for and the marginal returns are quite low if not detrimental.

The 4-day upper and lower split is a popular program design that involves dividing the body into two main groups: the upper body and the lower body. The upper body includes muscles in the chest, back, shoulders, and arms, while the lower body includes muscles in the glutes, quads, hamstrings, and calves.

In a 4-day upper/lower split, you would train the upper body muscles on two days of the week and the lower body muscles on the other two days. For example, you may do an upper body workout on Monday and Thursday and a lower body workout on Tuesday and Friday.

The 4-day upper/lower split is a popular program because it allows you to train each muscle group with sufficient frequency and volume, while still allowing for enough recovery time between workouts. It is be an effective way to build muscle mass without spending excess days a week in the gym.

HOW TO PROGRESS ON THE UPPER LOWER PROGRAM?

For each exercise, start at a weight that you can do with good form at the lower end of the target rep range. Aim for the same weight across all sets.
Once you can hit all the sets at the high end of target rep range (doesn't have to occur on consecutive weeks), add the smallest weight increment possible and restart at the the lower end of the rep range
Follow the target RPE ranges. RPE 10 means 0 reps left in the tank, RPE 9 means you stop 1 rep shy of failure, RPE 8 means you stop 2 reps shy of failure, and RPE 7 means you stop 3 reps shy of failure.

HOW TO EAT ON THE UPPER LOWER PROGRAM?

Eat enough calories: To build muscle, you need to be in a calorie surplus, which means consuming more calories than you burn. How many calories you need will depend on your age, gender, weight, height, and activity level.
Bulking weight gain: Aim to gain 0.5 to 1.5% of your body weight per month, depending on if you are a beginner, novice, or intermediate lifter. In general, the more beginner, the faster you can progress and afford to gain.
Consume enough protein: Protein is essential for building and repairing muscle tissue. Aim for 0.7-1 gram of protein per pound of body weight per day as an optimal amount for muscle building.
Eat a variety of nutrient-dense foods: Focus on whole, unprocessed foods like vegetables, fruits, lean proteins, and complex carbohydrates. These provide the nutrients your body needs to build and repair muscle tissue.

WHO IS ALBERTO NUNEZ?

Alberto Nuñez first stepped on a competitive stage in 2007, and then the very next year he earned his pro status in virtually every major natural organization. Alberto won Mr. Universe at the 2022 World Natural Bodybuilding Federation (WNBF).

Despite all this success, Nuñez claims his most successful accolade comes in the fact that he gets to be called Coach Nuñez. “My biggest thrill is that I was lucky enough to be one of the founders of Team 3DMJ. I can honestly say we as a team have changed this sport we love for the better. Everyday I am thankful that I get to be part of this movement, alongside Coach Helms, Loomis, Alberts and Valdez.”